Thinking of getting Edler Guppies and breeding them ?
Hi, I have got a 15 gallon tank with 3 male guppies and 4 pygmy puffer fish. It has a air powered filter a heater, light live plants and rocks. Once all the fish in this tank die I am thinking of getting Elder guppies ? I have bred fancie guppies, the 3 males in my tank are fancie guppies all the females are in my 65 gallon tank. How easy are Edler guppies to breed ? What should you feed them ? Do I need a breeder box for the fry ? I used a breeder box for my fancie guppies for 2 weeks should I do this with Edler guppies ? How long do they live for ? How many can I fit happily in a 15 gallon tank ? By the way I feed my 3 fancie guppies and 4 pygmy puffer fish live/frozen blood worms, brine shrimp only live, daphia live/frozen and live snails for the puffers teeth. I want to breed Elder guppies because I head they are endangered in the wild and I would like to keep the strain alive and give the babies to the pet shop for people to buy and breed them to keep them alive 
Do you even think this is a good idea ? Or should I get any other fish that I can breed ? I also have loads of baby brine shrimp, do I feed new borns baby brine shrimp ?
Please Help!
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Endler’s livebearers are an isolated population of fish that resemble wild guppies, except that wild guppy males all show unique markings, like snowflakes no two are alike. Endler males collected from one spot all look alike, and have some bright colors not found on guppies, and some differences in the structure of the gonopodium (the intromittant organ used to fertilize the female).
Endler’s guppies are a cross between the Endler’s livebearer and the domestic guppy. They are not natural, so they can’t really be said to be endangered. However many people like them. The possibility of obtaining the uncrossed Endler’s livebearer is low, even when the seller is sure theirs are the pure unadulterated fish. Auctioneers at tropical fish auctions sometimes jokingly refer to them as Endless livebearers.
It appears the geographic isolation of the Endlers livebearer may have broken down, possibly due to human intervention, but as the sites below should indicate, there is a lot of controversy and even some extremism regarding this fish.
Endlers’ whether the cross or the pure species breed much like guppies and would be happy with the same foods. Due to the short finnage, they would be better able to escape the attentions of the puffer fish who might be tempted to nip a chunk out of a long flowing fin that slows down its owner. However if you have some fine leaved plants in the aquarium, either live or silk, you won’t need a breeding trap and the fry will grow up right in with the parents. Replacing the puffers once they get old after another five years or so, with coydoras catfish would be a compatible mix. The albino cats are well adapted to aquariums and very hardy. They like to school at the bottom and so balance out with the Endler’s, eating food the Endler’s missed and filling out an unused (by the Endler’s) part of the aquarium.
Where do you obtain a pure form of Endler’s? Well avoid the black bar, tiger, and snakeskin varieties since those are guppy traits most likely suggesting a mixed parentage in the strain. You can look for them on Aquabid.com but nothing came up right now that looked promising. I check there every few days if not more often. Attending an American Livebearer Association convention would be your best bet on obtaining the original stock so you can maintain and distribute them further.
Endler’s livebearers are an isolated population of fish that resemble wild guppies, except that wild guppy males all show unique markings, like snowflakes no two are alike. Endler males collected from one spot all look alike, and have some bright colors not found on guppies, and some differences in the structure of the gonopodium (the intromittant organ used to fertilize the female).
Endler’s guppies are a cross between the Endler’s livebearer and the domestic guppy. They are not natural, so they can’t really be said to be endangered. However many people like them. The possibility of obtaining the uncrossed Endler’s livebearer is low, even when the seller is sure theirs are the pure unadulterated fish. Auctioneers at tropical fish auctions sometimes jokingly refer to them as Endless livebearers.
It appears the geographic isolation of the Endlers livebearer may have broken down, possibly due to human intervention, but as the sites below should indicate, there is a lot of controversy and even some extremism regarding this fish.
Endlers’ whether the cross or the pure species breed much like guppies and would be happy with the same foods. Due to the short finnage, they would be better able to escape the attentions of the puffer fish who might be tempted to nip a chunk out of a long flowing fin that slows down its owner. However if you have some fine leaved plants in the aquarium, either live or silk, you won’t need a breeding trap and the fry will grow up right in with the parents. Replacing the puffers once they get old after another five years or so, with coydoras catfish would be a compatible mix. The albino cats are well adapted to aquariums and very hardy. They like to school at the bottom and so balance out with the Endler’s, eating food the Endler’s missed and filling out an unused (by the Endler’s) part of the aquarium.
Where do you obtain a pure form of Endler’s? Well avoid the black bar, tiger, and snakeskin varieties since those are guppy traits most likely suggesting a mixed parentage in the strain. You can look for them on Aquabid.com but nothing came up right now that looked promising. I check there every few days if not more often. Attending an American Livebearer Association convention would be your best bet on obtaining the original stock so you can maintain and distribute them further.
Source(s):
http://endlers.webs.com/
http://endlers.webs.com/endlers_livebear…
http://www.endlersr.us/
http://freshaquarium.about.com/cs/otherf…
Endlers are easy and I consider mine purebred top green swords, as they can be traced back to original ones brought in by Adrian:
http://www.swampriveraquatics.com/
Endlers are just as easy to breed as Guppies but have slightly smaller spawn sizes and DON’T eat their own fry! They are active curious little fish, mine are in a densely planted tank and they seem happiest like that. I keep mine at about 78-80F.
The newborns will eat the same things as the adults, they’re pretty self sufficient, although baby brine shrimp will NOT be turned down! I feed mine micro-pellets, which are tiny, they are tiny fish after all.
I also breed sub-tropical Girardinus Metallicus, awaiting my first spawn! They’re a little harder to come by and will cost you a bit more. They aren’t as colourful as Endlers, much more subtle than Endlers with shimmering blue eyes and iridescent sides with faint bars, and the boys have ENORMOUS gonobodiums which are black, they’re also called Black Chin Livebearers.
There are plenty of other more unusual livebearers out there, like Limias, have a look round Adrian’s website linked above for some inspiration!
all guppies have babies like crazy . just feed them any food . i usually feed them tropical food or bloodworms . you dont need a breeder box , just a somewhat small tank . i am sorry to say , guppies eat their young , therefore only a couple if any will live . although , some breeder boxes work , but sometimes not . they only would because of eating their young . and you cant take them out of the tank or they will die . supposedly , you can only fit 1 inch per fish per gallon . but more wont be a bother . i think your idea is a very good one , and i will call you a hero . i love fish . and if you do , you have a talrnt and need to keep on . and if you want to breed any other fish , power to ya ! and about the baby shrimp , i dont know . ive only done bloodworms . =]
hope i helped .
and sorry for the misspellings . i was hurrying . =/